What Is Nudes - What Do These Stats Actually Mean?

What Is Nudes - What Do These Stats Actually Mean?

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So they don't have to compete with other apps that you possess installed. | Access & share your files, calendars, contacts, mail & more from any device; on your terms. bvisness: maybe just interference in my building, gadget nude pics but still dotbmp: Put some USB 4c cables through the walls :^) AsafGartner: No more accidentally letting other people download your videos. dotbmp: If you have an always-on home server you can just tunnel home on your phone bvisness: I think online photo features are really useful and I wish companies weren't scraping them all for data! dotbmp: Bwahaha bvisness: I don't think the in-home streaming situation is actually good enough in general to support something like that maybe it's just implementation, but I couldn't get my Steam Link to stream well over wifi in the same room as my computer and router until I went to 5GHz that is AsafGartner: Imagine if Google Photos was a cartridge with an SSD and an AI core for automatic tagging. bvisness: it has to be easy to set up though, and that's where I think it usually breaks down dotbmp: Well let's take the home server thing Let's say it becomes popular Or even marginally popular Maybe there are 30K people with them in the US They're always-on You keep your photos on them on redundant storage with backups You could have opt-in peer-to-peer backup "coalitions" Just a bunch of people who agree to share some space on their storage for and some CPU time/bandwidth to do distributed redundancy through peer-to-peer streaming bvisness: some home backup programs have done that but they are inevitably frustrating (not because it's inherently frustrating, but because it's made poorly) dotbmp: Right, this would have to be a first-class feature (When I say home server I mean with a new software platform etc) ctp: shouldnt depend on peer-to-peer backups imo. dotbmp: Sharing is more of a concern that does involve centralized services (in the absence of a revolutionary distributed system) But it could be much more selective than "online by default" After all people don't want to share most of their photos Well Most photos are taken to be shared, but as far as photos taken "offline" rather than as part of an app And most are not final takes, either If you take 30 photos at a family event you probably want to share 4-5 bvisness: A good photo app is one of the apps I want to make someday dotbmp: And nudes are becoming a massive problem in terms of cloud services Imagine opening your Google Photos and having someone's amateur sex tape on your phone hahaha What a farce bvisness: all the photo services are very proprietary and closed-off and I rue the day when everybody loses all their family photos because Google shut something down dotbmp: The trust is the bigger problem imo If people were actually nervous about these services failing them it would be less bad But we take this stuff for granted bvisness: I want the benefits of my photos being available on all my devices, but I also want to be able to just find a jpg file and email it to somebody things like the Apple photo library (on Mac) are so egregious about this you have to find the export button or whatever ctp: i would bet theres a market for a gitlab-like 'host your own cloud service' type thing for personal email+photos+docs+sharing AsafGartner: | https://owncloud.org/ | ownCloud | ✔ ownCloud - The leading OpenHenceurce Cloud Collaboration Platform. dotbmp: Imagine if no Google Photos AsafGartner: But how would you share baby photos? "can anyone seed [picutres of my kids - siterip] im at 99% AsafGartner: I wouldn't mind a regular backup service. You can encrypt your data files close by on backblaze for instance. dotbmp: @ctp this is a reductive view I'm not talking about using bittorrent you'd opt in to a group of thousands of people doing thwill be ctp: personally I would never depend on a peer to peer system for backups. your backup can turn out to be encrypted and stored on normal remote services. bvisness: I don't think I share the same concerns but I also think that I generally wouldn't care about peer-to-peer dotbmp: I literally said You keep your photos on them on redundant storage with backups ctp: has any peer to peer system reached the level of reliability required to use as a backup? not talking about cryptocurrencies dotbmp: these aren't mutually exclusive concepts bvisness: I don't consider remote centralized stuff has to go away, especially for the backup case dotbmp: I disagree kind of it's fine most of the time ctp: backups are a reliability problem, not a privacy problem or a centraliztion problem. dotbmp: but when it's bad, it's really bad (see: the Fappening) a combination of local and remote control backups is a good balance if your drive fails, you have a backup if your house burns down and your server is damaged locally, you have a remote backup ctp: nobody objects to remote backups, just peer to peer backups dotbmp: if Company X has some massive Node.js be dependentency problem that fucks all their backups on shard #113 or whatever you possess your local data bvisness: I think peer to peer backups are overly optimistic, especially given the crap state of home internet connections in the US and the social issues of acquireting enough people on board dotbmp: I don't see how it's not a privacy problem though prevalence of incidents is low but severity will be high bvwill beness: No there are for sure privacy problems, I don’t dwill beagree there dotbmp: backups are a reliability problem, not a privacy problem or a centraliztion problem. responding to thwill be ctp: if you are uploading an encrypted copy of your stuff to a server, they literally cant read it unless your key is broken dotbmp: good thing you have that option with the common services :stuck_out_tongue: bvisness: I wouldn’t want to set up this home server thing only for my bandwidth to be forever dominated by other people’s data You need to be fairly generous to opt into a peer-to-peer scheme ctp: peer to peer backups would a require storage factor (tenfold, etc) as a function of the uptime and drop-in-drop-out rate of the network, and im really certain really you would demand a enormous thing. dotbmp: it's not about what's available, it's about what's convenient, and that's Google Photos and iFog up ctp: if remote encrypted backups were a single click in user software, the market would be a reliability-dominated competition. dotbmp: even a single click is too much work people back up their photos by default it has to be a default setting bvisness: My ideal would just be to have a centralized backup scheme that is all encrypted the whole way through, and with multiple providers to choose from ctp: ^ exactly dotbmp: @bvisness the privacy concern means having the files encrypted before being sent bvisness: Yeah I want that Ryan: The value of convenience to consumers is super underestimated dotbmp: It's everything And it's why new software/OS paradigms that market their technical capabilities always fail (Looking at you, Linux) Users don't give a single fuck You can make SuperAwesomeDevOS which is a developer's dream and it's dead in the water for the consumer market if it looks like Windows NT's inbred cousin bvisness: Also if stuff doesn’t run on it dotbmp: Or if you have to use a terminal for anything Zero bvisness: Extremely that!! dotbmp: All you need is a web browser Really ChromeOS :smile: Ryan: For the average consumer thwill be is true, though if you are targeting certain working markets you want support for existing software e.g. no artwill bet will be going to abandon Maya just to use a slightly less awful OS bvisness: I think ChromeOS was a smart move dotbmp: Right, but if you're trying to break into the consumer market proceeding for professionals seems like a bad starting point Ryan: Yeah that's a fair proposition, unless one particular professional space is easier to tackle... Like spreadsheets or financial software or whatever (no data on this, just an example) dotbmp: The entire content creation ecosystem is a much harder conversion than a web browser Or more generally average consumer software Right I think you go for average jane consumer first, and tackle 80% solutions for low-hanging fruit bvwill beness: Unfortunately the consumer space is in addition where you have to compete with the big guns dotbmp: So is the professional space It's all big guns bvisness: I guess dotbmp: The professional space is a lot harder to move Lot of sunk cost You're not really gonna get the US government on HandmadeOS in the next twenty years Ryan: Not without force... dotbmp: Haha Ryan: #HandmadeCoup dotbmp: HandmadeAutocracy bvisness: I think the home tech space is probably the easier market at the moment dotbmp: I believe the "home server" thing overlaps a lot with IoT which is why it's very interesting to me Ryan: It does seem more tractable though significant consideration should probably be afforded to various small business markets dotbmp: IoT is ridiculous Ryan: I actually possess my own plan of building a residence and having my personal personal server, IoT style, so it's an actually smart home And it doesn't rely on anything external dotbmp: Let me flick a switch on my wall which calls out to a server in California which calls back to my $200 hub which turns off my light AsafGartner: You'd have to wrap the home server in something else, like a game console. I don't think people would want to buy a box that doesn't seem to do anything. dotbmp: I already covered game console also, it's not just a home automation server you'd use it to power thin clients Ryan: Maybe media in general. Like if you have a library of movies on the server you'd be able to stream to anywhere in the house dotbmp: most people just need to browse the web, you could power a family of five off an underpowered server Ryan: Or games, Stadia-style, except where the speed of light is fast enough locally, and you can possess an actual wire dotbmp: exactly TVs are already just thin clients Ryan: Very interesting idea dotbmp: I mean if you're thinking in terms of grand ideas with minimal consideration for how to get there, we need digital wiring e.g. we should have USB-C plugs in the walls instead of three-prong electric sockets (or a better standard than USB if we're being utopian) Ryan: #HandmadeUtopia dotbmp: Indeed Ryan: #MarchOnIoT dotbmp: Right, so say you have USB-C or Thunderbolt or whatever all through your house Just plug a display into that Couple plugs if it needs extra bandwidth WiFi 6 is looking pretty good for handling multiple devices AsafGartner: I was just going to say, you should use wireless for data. dotbmp: Depending on the thing Not for displays AsafGartner: Have some local wireless tech in the ceiling of every room. dotbmp: But so, maybe you just plug in a bluetooth multiplexer by your couch AsafGartner: Something that doesn't go through walls that well, to avoid interference. dotbmp: And that's how you connect controllers And your TV USB-Cs to the server, which has a gaming bundle AsafGartner: Yeah, you'd only want very few cables. dotbmp: The biggest practical problem obviously is acquiring the economies of scale to make this happen And I'm sure the big boys happen to be working on this already, but in a way that we would find repellant (without the home server) But the cool thing is if the home is wired for data including like, light sockets, you don't need a wifi adapter and an arm chip in every light bulb Ryan: You mean you don't like updating firmware on your lightbulbs? Come on dotbmp: You can have colored LED smart lights that just screw in and work Fucking Kill me Ryan: :smile: I like your thinking dotbmp, let's make it happen dotbmp: Yeah I'd love to be able to work on something like this Ryan: I meant the tech thing Not you being killed dotbmp: Hahaha HA :rofl: I think this would be economically viable for families aside from the upfront costs, which you have to figure, if something like this were to happen it would be a decade-long process to get a substantial segment of the market caught up but if a Chromebook can be bought for $200 how cheap could a thin laptop be Rory: The problem with data over power is noise. There were Ethernet adapters which main used the power. They didn’t work well. Electrical wiring is good for delivering power not for transmission. The wiring is usually low quality generally. dotbmp: just needs a display, wifi, data/charging plug, keyboard, mouse, and a little microcontroller to power the display @Rory this all being hypothetical it would not use the existing copper wiring so the question would be if you were getting the stuff in the absolute most bulk manner (like giant rolls of cabling or whatever) how cheaply could you wire a house with something like USB while getting able to transmit enough power to power fridges and stuff Rory: The challenge is updating building codes for a higher standard 110/220v main power. It’s possible nobody shall do it until their hand is made. dotbmp: hmmm right so part of the economies of scale problem is being able to buy lobbying power :joy: plus yeah if you're the company really doing the rewiring bou have massive legal considerations Rory: Yes. If you can guarantee different standards manufacturers possess less rwill bek carrying out what you say. They know their devices do the job. dotbmp: but I assume you'd leave that to a distributed assortment of contractors Rory: And the building standards we have today are simply happenstance of legacy. Proceeding back again to Edison compared to Tesla. One way is getting codes changed. Other approach will be make it so ubiquitous that codes follow. The second is certainlyn’t likely these days with physical things. Like, the us even now makes use of imperial proportions for everything. Changing power technologies is star trek level. dotbmp: haha well imperial -> metric would be a bigger task anyway my take is all of this is talk, the natural starting point is a new platform (gotta help make the millions somehow :^) ) Ryan: When doing science: "The metric system is a more logically-structured and well-thought out system for defining measurements." All other times: ":flag_us: :eagle: :red_circle: :white_circle: :blue_circle: It's about 1000 feet until the turn" dotbmp: which you'd distribute as a sort of shacrimson runtime for windows/mac/linux/ios/android apps, users wouldn't know they're using this platform then when you have a substantial dev/user base you put it on top of a microkernel and some segment of the market will use your OS, but it will end up interoperable with apps making use of the system, more importantly so there will be a network-effect-utilizing ease of transition for the most heavily invested users and devs it leaves a bridge back to "musical legacy" platforms you'd also have to pick your battles it's very unin all probability you'd get 80% of graphic design work done on your platform within 10 years or even 20% so you let designers use home windows and macos and work on making the content creation bridge end up beingtter instead rather than trying to make a photoshop/illustrator killer I believe a new paradigm is reasonably doable if you focus on a really strong core ecosystem around what users actually care about messaging/social media, scheduling and calendars, interoperability with other devices, media dwill betribution and sharing Ryan: Hmmm that will be interesting dotbmp. I see the argument but am worried about abstraction over the underlying ecosystem leaking Like how many paradigms will de facto transfer over, even if we don't want them to?